Cork still in the darkages ?

[ajmd]

Do you you have mobiles in Cork?

[DHBH]

welcome ajmd.

yes we have mobile phones in cork. only the strongest people in the village have them tho, as not all can be expected to lug a phone box around with them.

try harder.

[Jack B. Badd]

I have a little trolley to pull mine about in :D

[ajmd]

I only asked about mobile phones in cork, as I visited Cork for a fortnight last August, the city of cork is vibrant place, I noticed that the people of cork do have difficulty in actually keeping up with with the changes.

I wonder if this is the reason why cork people have difficulty in ajusting to larger cities, and always tend to "go home" after a time.

I lived in Cork for many years in the sixties and seventies and to return last year was a pleasent experience, I remember Cork being very prehistoric, almost to a point of extreme poverty. Since joining the European Union, cork has changed for the better, becomming quite upmarket in some places.

There are still some very derprived area's in Cork. Its a shame that the people of Cork, some of which I found to be quite common in relation to their speech, every other word in their sentences contains an f this and f that, I accept that you get this everywhere you go, but with Cork it seems more predominent. Its a real shame the people let the City down.

[ajmd]

I have a little trolley to pull mine about in :D
Trolleys as well, my.

[Darkstar]

When you say the sixties and seventies you mean in the 1960's right?

You remember Cork being quite prehistoric? did you stumble into a museum or where you imagining dinosaurs?

I dont think cork in the Sixties and Seventies was all that different from other cities, and as for the people letting the city down if you choose to tar an entire city on what you've seen from a few bad apples then you need to seriously reconsider your opinions. I'm a cork boy through and through and I know quite a few other corkonians frequent this board and I'd be careful about putting us down.

I think maybe you posted to try an start an argument and I'll gladly give you one, I'm not the most patriotic of people but implying that the people I know are "letting the city down" is crossing the line.

Excuse me while i ride my Dinosaur to the soup kitchen before i listen to the wireless, Up The Rebels!

[Faith]

I only asked about mobile phones in cork, as I visited Cork for a fortnight last August, the city of cork is vibrant place, I noticed that the people of cork do have difficulty in actually keeping up with with the changes.

I wonder if this is the reason why cork people have difficulty in ajusting to larger cities, and always tend to "go home" after a time.

I lived in Cork for many years in the sixties and seventies and to return last year was a pleasent experience, I remember Cork being very prehistoric, almost to a point of extreme poverty. Since joining the European Union, cork has changed for the better, becomming quite upmarket in some places.

There are still some very derprived area's in Cork. Its a shame that the people of Cork, some of which I found to be quite common in relation to their speech, every other word in their sentences contains an f this and f that, I accept that you get this everywhere you go, but with Cork it seems more predominent. Its a real shame the people let the City down.

Such nice words disguising such an unpleasant meaning. Cork has changed massively since the 60's and 70's. It's now a vibrant, dynamic city with plenty of jobs and oppertunities. There are still deprived areas in every city in the world, your own London by no means excluded.

I think you'll find that we have very little trouble keeping up with the changes. We've even got iPods! As for swearing, there is a small percentage of the population that may swear excessively but that is not an accurate representation of the entire county.

Cork people "go home" after a period of time because it's a very good city to live in. Nothing to do with not being able to adjust in other places.

Kindly refrain from passing judgement on that of which you do not know.

[JennyPen]

There are still deprived areas in every city in the world, your own London by no means excluded.

London's awwwwwwwwwwwwful rubbish and horrible, I wouldn't live anywhere near it if I tried. Oxford for me, thank you.

That said, I do often miss Cork. When I was home for Christmas, I couldn't believe how great it was.

This has gone hideously offtopic!!

[Jack B. Badd]

Hmmm...defensive much?

[ciaran]

Most of the people here [myself included] weren't even born in the 60s and 70s but the record is pretty clear that most of Ireland [particularly outside Dublin] was very poor and undeveloped at the time, by European standards.

[Jack B. Badd]

From my extensive knowledge of Reeling in the Years, I'd have to agree with that. Perhaps we've come some way since then though...

[JennyPen]

From my extensive knowledge of Reeling in the Years, I'd have to agree with that. Perhaps we've come some way since then though...

Ah God, you're like my feckin' Dad. Yeah, we were poor, now we're not, get over it people of the world :

[Jack B. Badd]

Your Dad? Eh?

[JennyPen]

Watching Reeling in the Years. *sigh* *shame*

[Jack B. Badd]

Um...okay. There may have been some sarcasm attached to that post. But whats wrong with Reeling in the Years. Its one way of learning about our country's history. That said, I usually get bored and phase out after 5 minutes or so. Unless its something controversial like contraception or something.

[osiris]

yeah Reeling in the Years is fun. i don't think its an old people thing. its interesting to watch!

[ciaran]

I think it's fascinating, people don't realise how much the country has changed, 30 years ago contraception was illegal, a woman working in the civil service or teaching or any state job had to leave her job if she had children, there was massive unemployment, university education was a privilege for the rich upper classes [mostly], bishops could effectively veto legislation and did bring governments down..........

[JennyPen]

a woman working in the civil service or teaching or any state job had to leave her job if she had children

they abolished that rule a few years after my Mam joined years ago. She was a customs officer, and for a long time she was the highest female officer in the civil service (there are two main branches, indoor and outdoor if you like, and women were never sent out to the outdoor) in the outdoor branch! She took over from this guy, and for months she'd have phone conversations like this.

(phone) hello, I'd like to speak to the customs officer.
(Mam) speaking! What can i do for you?
(phone) ...are you his secretary?
(Mam) No, I'm the new customs officer for the ***** area (I can't remember where)
(phone) Is he off today?
(mam) No, he's been promoted and I'm filling in.
(phone) when is his replacement coming?
(Mam) *being calm* I am his replacement.

Funny old world. Used to get her back up something nasty. It'd drive me BANANAS if that were me.

admin edit : Jen should learn how to use the quote

[Pembily]

i work in a construction company jen and still get that!! colette is the purchaser for the sites and some of the suppliers ask to speak to the head purchaser (which she is) and she gets very frustrated. if i have to phone up and get a machine fixed im told its not broken what do you know!! although i do know its broken and what needs to be done!! so in a way we havnt progressed that much!! but cork or anyother city in ireland is defo not in the dark ages and yes london STINKS!!

[pablo]

topic split :rolleyes: please keep topics a little on track, other posts can be found here (http://www.feckthat.com/rant/showthread.php?t=5624)

[ajmd]

I know all about Cork, I grew up there, I was educated in Cork, I came to London in 1976, and never looked back.

Your occupation and I quote " Professional scrounger and lay-about, says it all.

Find some employment perhaps in the construction industry, cleaning the streets of its litter, pick up fag butts etc, and contribute to the city you love so much,

oh and I forgot about the dog s*** Start a "clean up Cork campaign.

finally, look at the situation you are in with the Euro.

I note you are now 21, ask your family what Cork was like prior to Europe, Grow up and get a life.

[happy joy joy]

whats wrong with the euro?

london not the cleanest place eather.

construction industry? from almost anywhere in cork city at the moment look up and spot the cranes alover the sky line.

[No Comment]

You mean Europe was founded first, then Cork? Can I have one of your history lessons? I'm finding it hard to fall asleep.

[Faith]

ask your family what Cork was like prior to Europe

My mother has lived in Cork for all of her 56 years. She has seen it change and evolve since 1950. I have, in turn, heard all about it, in detail. Yup, it was poor. Yeah, nearly everyone was working class and lived in council housing. Jobs were scarce. Very few people even did their leaving certs, never mind going to university. Taking my mother, as she's such a good example. She grew up in a two bedroomed council house with her sick mother, alcoholic father and aunt who worked several jobs to try and support the family. My mum dropped out of school after her inter cert. She worked and gave most of whatever pittance she earned to her family. Then she met my Dad, fresh from sea and 2nd year med student. My mum did a typing course, got an admin job, got married, had children, set up her own business, went back to uni 11 years ago and got 3 degrees and now has a very cushy full time job, with full benefits, as a teacher. Her husband is a very successful doctor. She has two grown up children, given the best educations money can buy. My parents have all the money they could need.

So yeah, Cork was kinda shitty in the 50's, 60's and 70's, but times have changed. People now have access to things kids in the 50's could scarely dream of. Education is taken for granted. And so, I fail to see your point. We know all about what Cork was like before Ireland joined the EU but that has absolutely nothing to do with what Cork is like today.

By the by, what you read in our profiles is generally not an entirely accurate representation of our lives. I think you'll find most of us lie for comic effect so don't try and base your entire "argument" of something you see in an online forum profile of someone you've never met.

[JennyPen]

By the by, what you read in our profiles is generally not an entirely accurate representation of our lives. I think you'll find most of us lie for comic effect so don't try and base your entire "argument" of something you see in an online forum profile of someone you've never met.

Are you saying I don't live in a Giant Robot car?!

I believe professional scrounger and layabout is the technical term for a student, but I could be wrong. That's a general universal thing too, not just Cork.

Darkstar is a web developer, if you're interested.

You are in the minority, ajmd. Your hackneyed and sad "I was there thirty years ago so I know what I'm talking about more than you people who have lived there all of your lives and have chosen to stay there."

Faith and I know what we're talking abuot, too. We did what you did. You upped and left after you were educated. She left TO be educated, and I left halfway through being educated, because I was following my heart.

If you love Cork and miss Cork, then say so. Don't just sit there and defensively hide behind "Oh, well, yeah, I'm old and stupid" excuses.

Going on from what Faith had to say, my Dad's not a bad example. He grew up on Barrack St, of all places, in Prosperity Sq (ironic name). He had a brother and a sister, and an ill mother and father. His sister went to college, despite his parents having NOTHING. His brother went working, and my Dad got a trade. He met my Mam at a music festival, and these days they have two children (one of whom gives them nothing bu constant grief!! ;)), a house, two cars...

finally, look at the situation you are in with the Euro.
What situation? Good? Bad? The Euro's fecking brilliant! I think you're narky 'cos you left a poverty-stricken place, and, oh look, now it's not, so you can't tell all your friends you lived on a farm with the three wee horses, with you leprechaun as your only friend (which I do all the time, to comic effect). Get off!

If you chose to abandon Cork, fine. If you chose a different life, fine. But it is pointless and utterly childish to leave a country, and thirty years later come back and bitch about it on a message board! *stunned at the sillyness of that*. I left Cork for many reasons, not all of them good - partly I wanted out of the country, too. And I'm happier in Oxford these days - it suits my temperament far more. But that doesn't mean I'll sit there dissing Cork to these people (my friends), especially when they're all from Cork and all quite blatantly defensive of their home town. I suppose the People's Republic of Cork wasn't even conceived of in your time, or the Cork Rebel movement?

Stay where you are, and let us REAL Cork people alone.