View Full Version : Guy eats all meals in Mcdonalds for 30 days - review of 'Super Size Me'
Posted By Jacob Ziegler on 06.22.04
SUPER SIZE ME
May 7, 2004
BY JACOB ZIEGLER, 411Movies
What would happen if you ate three meals a day for thirty straight days only at McDonalds? The answer seems obvious – you’d get fat, right? Morgan Spurlock decided to find out exactly what would happen if one decided to engage in that absurd experiment. It certainly becomes more complicated than one might expect, but the genius of the film is that it isn’t simply “I ate at McDonalds and this is what happened.” It explores several layers of American society, Spurlock just chose McDonalds as a reference point to make several greater statements.
Of course, the crux of the film is that Spurlock does eat at McDonalds for thirty straight days. He sets up three ground rules: 1) No options: he could only eat what was available over the counter (water included!); 2) No supersizing unless offered; and 3) No excuses: he had to eat every item on the menu at least once. Spurlock enlists the help of no less than three doctors to assist him in this dangerous endeavor. All three doctors confirm that the 33-year-old Spurlock is in excellent, above-average health for his age bracket. His weight is on target with the BMI index for his height. His appearance is normal.
In the span of one month, he puts on 25 pounds, both his blood pressure and cholesterol go through the roof, his liver begins to deteriorate, he has chest pains, his skin looks unhealthy, he has no energy, and according to his girlfriend, their sexual relationship suffers. The doctors say that the damage he is doing to his body is on par with that of a heavy binge-drinker. He actually appears to be legitimately addicted to fast food – when he is having a bad day, he feels better once a McDonalds burger passes his lips. They are all shocked by the results.
Now, I know what most people are saying, because it is what I said before I saw the film. “Nobody eats McDonalds three times a day!” Of course not, but Spurlock is proving the point that we as Americans have become fat and lazy. The numbers are frightening: 60% of all Americans are obese.
So what’s causing all this? One of my other fears about the film was that Spurlock would blindly point his finger at the “evil” McDonalds corporation without considering other avenues. He does place some of the blame squarely on McDonalds, but Spurlock also goes across the country interviewing experts and laymen alike, trying to find out what the fascination with fast food is, and trying to find other reasons for the “obesity epidemic,” as one expert calls it. Spurlock takes a look at several public school systems, which has become invaded and bastardized by corporations looking to cash in on impressionable youths. The school systems allow the presence of such corporations because they need the money, so it seems to be win-win. But what about the damage that fast food and soda are causing our children? Is it setting them up for an unhealthy lifestyle?
Many accuse fast food establishments, McDonalds in particular, of marketing specifically towards young children. But where does parental responsibility come in? I mean, five year olds aren’t driving themselves to McDonalds and paying for their own Happy Meal, are they? An even bigger question is how responsible are adults for their own actions? I personally participated in a conference call with a woman who did the exact same thing as Spurlock (the recap can be found here), only with the opposite results. How is this possible? Well, she ate less and exercised. But how many average Americans order a regular cheeseburger with small fries and a small Diet Coke, and then go home and sweat to the oldies?
Some have accused Spurlock of being a Michael Moore-like propagandist and egomaniac who is only out to make a name for himself. I happen to agree with a lot of what Spurlock says and found his film to be both frightening and entertaining, but there is certainly some evidence to support this theory as well. It all depends with how you feel about the film’s message. Spurlock is definitely a filmmaker of similar style to Moore, as both will go to extreme lengths to prove their point, and both place themselves firmly in the spotlight of their films. But, also like Moore, Spurlock is a charismatic showman, a talented filmmaker, and possesses a gift for telling a good story while addressing a bigger issue.
“Super Size Me” is a very thoughtful, entertaining, and eye-opening picture. It’s not the expose into McDonalds that I was expecting; having read Fast Food Nation just over a year ago nothing about that place would shock me. What Spurlock does instead is presents a bevy of statistics and facts that should shock all Americans – not just the one in four who visit a fast food restaurant each day.
The 411 .::. It’s easy to see why this film caused such a stir at Sundance. Spurlock has delved into a sensitive issue and handled it with grace, wit, and style. It should earn him a seat at the Oscars next year with a nomination for best documentary feature. McDonalds has already discontinued the super size option, though they claim that this film had nothing to do with it (and who believes that?). This is a very important social film, one that should be shown in schools, and those out of school should make a point to see it.
Final Score: 8.5
I can't wait to see it. Hopefully they'll show it in Ireland & Germany.
ohh i read about that a few weeks ago! sounds really interesting. personally i always feel sick if i eat junk food like that more than once in the space of a few days so i don't know how he lived on it for a month. i heard mcdonald's new salads have as much fat as one of their cheeseburgers, frightening how much fat and bad stuff is in their food.
the outlaw torn
23-06-2004, 19:24
i had mcdonalds every day for 3 weeks once, well not just mcdonalds but fast food in general cause i was staying with a woman who steamed every meal appart from breakfast. steamed food is not nice, its ok as part of a meal but steamed everything sucks so i used to sneak out for a real meal every night. it wasn't too bad but i had enough of fast food for the next few months, and it messed up my stomach for a few days after i came off the junk food.
can't wait to see this guys movie, and see what it does to him.
ohh i read about that a few weeks ago! sounds really interesting. personally i always feel sick if i eat junk food like that more than once in the space of a few days so i don't know how he lived on it for a month. i heard mcdonald's new salads have as much fat as one of their cheeseburgers, frightening how much fat and bad stuff is in their food.
Well, TBH there's nothing in the salads that you wouldnt put in your own salads, ppl dont normally note that most salad dressings are mostly fat (well what do you think olive oil is?) and that the hard cheeses have a higher percentage of fat than the soft ones
NiNjAHoLiC
18-09-2004, 05:14
Read "Fast Food Nation", written by Eric Schlosser, ISBN #0-141-00687-0.
A great read for anyone who really wants to know the horrifying things food-processors do to our food. Then slaps it on a plate in front of us to eat.
NOT a McDonalds-basher as people think, but intended to encourage people to go back to eating "real" food, and a look at the fast-food boom of 1950's America.
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the evil belly
19-09-2004, 12:10
well what do you think olive oil is?
eh i'd imagine it's oil. tis actually really good for you too
Nightcrawler
19-09-2004, 18:25
If you restrict yourself to ANY food for an extended period of time,it'll have a detrimental effect on your body.
JennyPen
19-09-2004, 21:52
except chocolate. what? chocolate is linked to weight gain? you're kidding, right?
I never heard anything of the sort. I only eat chocolate and I never put on weight. (I wish :nope: )
JennyPen
21-09-2004, 22:56
i've been clinging to the "chocolate releases serotonin" excuse for years
Anybody else think this guy is an idiot?
Christ first Moore telling us the world is fucked because of America and now this ape is telling us that eating McDonalds is,no wait for it....BAD FOR US!
Whoa that came as a huge shock to me.
What will his sequel be "Running Into Poles Over and Over Hurts"?!?!?!?
the outlaw torn
28-09-2004, 00:05
i think its a good idea making documentaries like this to highlight certain things cause people are stupid and need to be shown not just told that things are bad for them. plus it shows ya just how bad mcdonalds and fast food is. i love mcdonalds but know that too much of it is really bad but with all the fat people these days maybe they need to be shocked into seeing the results of eating all fast food for a month.
All im saying is that putting this into a medium like cinema/tv is not doing it much good anyway.the only positive out of the overweight person going to see this film is the walk to the cinema,(which is good for them) but then again i dont need a film to prove that to me.
And another thing why doesnt this guy like donate some money towards over-weight/unhealthy awareness programs instead of whoring himself out to make this stupid movie.
I asked the same a weeks back about Michael Moore, the guys made shit-loads of money and he's supposed to be making these movies for 'the common man' but why then does he live in a million-dollar apartment in manhattan and send his kid to a private school because...apart and separate from other 'normal working class' type families.
This guys doing the same shit he did, their going about it all the wrong way!
the evil belly
28-09-2004, 07:58
did the guy say he was making the movie as an educational film or something?
did he make moore like promises about giving away money and being for the working man?
i have no idea(hence the questions) but if he didn't why shouldn't he keep the money/get rich for being an idiot. it worked for the lads from jackass, dirty sanchez and how many more stupid programs so why not him.
personally i think this film should be shown in schools/classes taken to the cinema to see it. those are the people that this kinda thing will have an effect on
JennyPen
28-09-2004, 08:44
It's not done as an educational thing! It's meant to be an experiment, see what eating only one kind of (notoriously unhealthy) food can do to you. They were expecting weight gain - they didn't expect all the other outcomes at all. They're not preaching, it's just another one of those thought processes along the lines of "I wonder what happens when I do THIS..." Everyone's had 'em, ye've all set ye're shoes on fire at some point in ye're lives!!! But they jus made money off it!
In all fairness, we are living in a country where in one county that is a McDonalds virgin, (Athlone, I think it was) the local governing body wanted an "Environmental Impact Report" before it would allow them to set up shop. And what was the subject of this report to be? Not pollution, not wildlife impact? No! It was to outline the impact on children's health it would have. What in god's name are you supposed to base THAT on?
As far as I remember (way back in the sands of time when I read about this in the Irish Examiner), the company who made this (some independant affair) came up with the concept, the guy who did it was just the one of them who volunteered for it. So before (well, after) someone gets high and mighty about his making money off of it, so what? Oh wow, he made money! Well done, I say. He got to eat all he wanted for a solid month, and get lots and lotsa moneys for it! Granted, his health degraded severely, but sure, he made money, and that's the important thing, right? 'Cos it's all about the money.
why shouldn't he keep the money/get rich for being an idiot. it worked for the lads from jackass, dirty sanchez and how many more stupid programs so why not him.
This is damn true!! And CKY!
Personally, I think this film is a great idea, it's certainly more original than a lot of the docs going around (cept for one or two, maybe) and I think they should have a screening for all the over-700pound blobbies in A-mer-ee-ca. Teach em a thing or two, 'cos they're obviously never going to learn on their own!
I disagree with you guys.
I don't think you understand quite how prevalent McDonalds is in America. Basically every mile or two miles on the motorways (no kidding) there is a a BK or McD's or some other Fast food place. You see, Americans don't see them as 'Junk food' outlets, they see them as restaurants. And they eat there 5 times a week, for their dinner. Seriously. In all fairness, not all Americans have this diet, just the poorer lower and lower middle classes. People who are working so many hours they simply don't have time to cook anything.
Your thinking of it from an Irish viewpoint, but American society is different.
Hey and if he's just making money off eating crap, good luck to him, at least hes not peddling/supporting drugs or child porn. Like some 'quality food' estalishments here.
*cough* Ballymaloe *cough*
Nightcrawler
28-09-2004, 09:36
Teach em a thing or two, 'cos they're obviously never going to learn on their own!
That statement is a very stereotypically American one,i.e: it is ignorant and arrogant.
the evil belly
28-09-2004, 09:50
Hey and if he's just making money off eating crap, good luck to him, at least hes not peddling/supporting drugs or child porn. Like some 'quality food' estalishments here.
*cough* Ballymaloe *cough*
thats fucking priceless that is :D
JennyPen
28-09-2004, 10:28
I don't think you understand quite how prevalent McDonalds is in America. Basically every mile or two miles on the motorways (no kidding) there is a a BK or McD's or some other Fast food place. You see, Americans don't see them as 'Junk food' outlets, they see them as restaurants. And they eat there 5 times a week, for their dinner. Seriously. In all fairness, not all Americans have this diet, just the poorer lower and lower middle classes. People who are working so many hours they simply don't have time to cook anything.
I know what you mean! It's kinda scary, before you hit the horse of the one horse town, there's a mile or so along the road where there's a few junk food outlets. and then when you go out of the town, it's the same on the other town.
I remember reading a story about some place down south where there isn't even a convenience store, but there's an LL Bean (the Brown Thomas of outdoor pursuits shops). If that isn't the biggest bullshit you've ever heard.
If anyone wants to understand some of the peculiarities of American Life, for a lighthearted (and oftentimes eye-opening) read, read Notes From A Big Country by Bill Bryson, they're a series of articles he wrote having moved BACK to America having lived in England for 20 odd years, raised a family, etc. (Amazon.co.uk) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0552997862/qid=1096363134/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-3039776-9658248)
That statement is a very stereotypically American one,i.e: it is ignorant and arrogant. Ah come on, wake up, you think a 700 pound person (of which there are SO many in the US that evolutionists the world over are debating as to whether or not they should call it a human evolutional step/mutation) is going to get up one morning and go, oh wow, I've been eating rubbish for ten years and I weigh this much, it's bad for me, I'll stop! It's a statement made from experience - have you ever even ONCE watched an American talk show? They don't go out and FIND people to be on them - in the US they place ads at the end calling for people to drop them a line if they weigh that much. Apparantly, the calls for obese people are the absolute biggest for them!
Remember, we are dealing with a country where obesity is the number one health problem at the moment. And it's the easiest one to solve - unless you're genetically predisposed to be fat (of which I think it's .015% are), if you don't wanna get/stay fat, don't eat rubbish! It's not a complicated concept! And yet so many people can't grasp that?
What stuns me the most is how much junk food people eat. 'Cos it's awful! When we were in Canada we had a Cadbury's chocolate bar, and we couldn't get over how disgusting it was! How can people eat it? We just don't know!
http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health/nutrit/pubs/statobes.htm some statistics for america and consequences of over eating.
30.5% are obese, 2/3 are over weight*
* in 1999-2000
JennyPen
28-09-2004, 10:50
The definition of obese is when a woman is made up of 30% fat, or a guy is 20%. I mean, we all have a little bit of tubs around the waist, but that's just ridiculous.
Obese sounds so clinical. A nicer word is corpulent. I like that word. Corpulent.
Actually, I think this is amusing, considering the country is so insanely crazy about his diet - Dr. Atkins may have been hiding something! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3477277.stm) By the way, did you know it works because the foods you eat on it fill you up faster so you eat less than on a calorie counting diet? It doesn't really control what you eat, but it does control how much!!!
Nightcrawler
28-09-2004, 13:20
It's a statement made from experience - have you ever even ONCE watched an American talk show?
What,like Jerry'My Dad Sleeps With My Wife' Springer and Jenny'Once I Was Fat,But Now I'm Phat' Jones?Excellent!Trashy day-time television.Educational programming at it's finest...:rolleyes:
I KNOW that obesity is a problem in the US,I never said it wasn't.I simply pointed out the that something you said was narrowminded.
That's the same kind of thinking that led to forced conversions during the Imperial Age."They don't know any better,so we'll 'save' them and show them what's 'right'".
To be honest, it does seem very narrowminded what your saying.
I don't think anyone 'wants' to be fat. The same as no-one really 'wants' to smoke (as if that bs about hash having medicinal qualities is scientifically true... spare me). But social pressures mean that people are eating these foods in huge quantities.
But from what your saying they're just stupid fat Americans. You know they used to think of the Irish as dirty potatoe eating peasents. Niggers inside out don't you know. Maybe extreme but not by much.
Relentless advertising, corporate oligopoly and lack of availability of quality foodstuffs, as well as the time to prepare it (A proper meal takes over an hour and a half to prepare. Wish i could find the reference) mean that you can't even make a 'proper meal' unless its shake and bake.
In essence, stop beating on the people. I'm sure some of them gorge themselves on food and would no matter what, but its like the tobacco (and alcohol)industry through the decades, they brainwash people, people who COULDN'T know any better and then exploit them.
Of course its easy for you in your middle or upper class (I doubt your lower class with access and use of the net) Irish home in the with access to fresh quality agricultural produce to pick on poor 'trailer trash' you've only seen on Jerry Springer. After all they're only Fat stupid Americans.
What's the definition of a proper meal? (Obviously a stir fry doesn't qualify.)
What's the definition of a proper meal? (Obviously a stir fry doesn't qualify.)
Fairly obvious answer. A proper/balanced meal would consist of a balance of protein, carbohydrates, and lipids/fats and vitamins.
Did you do Junior Cert Science?
Fairly obvious answer. A proper/balanced meal would consist of a balance of protein, carbohydrates, and lipids/fats and vitamins.I think she is looking for an example menu.
stairway 2 hell
28-09-2004, 20:08
one of the main problems with the obesity in america is that its not as clear cut as it should be. the main problem is the bmi (body mass index). this is where you get your weight in kilos and divide it by your height and you get some number called your bmi and this when compared to a scale shows you whether youre underweight, ideal, overweight or obese. the problem is for example jean claude van damme, jonny wilkinson and brad pitt all have a bmi of 27 which technically by this scale makes them clinically obese and last time i checked brad pitt is not obese. so all these claims that 20% of americans are obese shouldnt be taken at face value. and talking of atkins didnt he die an obese man?
The same as no-one really 'wants' to smoke (as if that bs about hash having medicinal qualities is scientifically true... spare me)
I want to smoke. I like smoking. Nothing better than a good cigarette after a hard day. Or with a drink. Or a cup of coffee. Or after a meal. Hash does have medicinal qualities even if you don't want to believe it. Quenn Victoria used to be prescribed hash by her doctor to help deal with her period cramps. It's a very effective pain killer, and more fun that paracetemol.
(Obviously a stir fry doesn't qualify.)
Why doesn't it? I eat stir fries most nights as part of a balanced diet and it's widely considered to be an excellent meal. For example, a chicken stir fry has : Proteins, carbohydrates (If you have noodles or rice with it), vitamins, minerals, fats and lipids. And plenty of fibre ;). The noodles/ rice absorb water while being cooked and that actually counts towards the amount of water you need a day. And above all, it's perfectly healthy, low in fat and low in calories.
Kev - The BMI scale is not applicable if you are very muscly or play a lot of sport.
This post is number 60000!!
stairway 2 hell
28-09-2004, 22:52
Kev - The BMI scale is not applicable if you are very muscly or play a lot of sport.
This post is number 60000!!
ah but you see when a scientist is handed all this data, he or she is just given the data not what all the millions of individual people do. they dont have to access to that. they just get a whole load of values, put them into a computer, bracket them off and BAMM. theres your bmi and "oh some percentage of the population is obese." they cant take factors such as athletic activity into account. for individual people you need a fat analysis done in person not just from a computer full of data. thing is though governments realise this but they still use it.
JennyPen
28-09-2004, 23:33
That's the same kind of thinking that led to forced conversions during the Imperial Age."They don't know any better,so we'll 'save' them and show them what's 'right'"
Riiiiiight.... going to the cinema compares.... how?
Ah crannies, now I want a stir-fry. Damn you Vicky and neenee!!!!!
Nightcrawler
29-09-2004, 09:32
Riiiiiight.... going to the cinema compares.... how?
What...what the hell are you talking about?What did I say about going to the cinema?
I commented on your ignorant statement,let me refresh your memory...
Teach em a thing or two, 'cos they're obviously never going to learn on their own!
The rest of that post was fair enough,up until that point.THAT'S what I was commenting on.
And as I said before,limiting yourself to ANY food for extended periods of time has a negative effect on your health.Even if you just ate pasta (which is good for you) morning,noon and night for a month,your body would suffer as you're getting excess amounts of the same nutrient(s),but nothing else.
JennyPen
29-09-2004, 10:23
Em, have a little look back, I said that going to the cinema (at a special screening, or whatnot) to see that film would teach them a thing or two (that they probably didn't know before), I wasn't suggesting that the guy tie them down and do a "forced conversion" to salads... that's Oprah's job... Someone said they didn't WANT to be that heavy - well, they didn't exactly get there by accident, it's a little more diffcult than that (or so I would imagine, perhaps you just wake up one morning and BOOM!). ;)
And he wasn't limiting himself to ONE food, he had to eat everything on the menu before he could double back, the only thing was he had to have bigger portions of chips! Granted, it's not the greatest variety, 'cos the only veg is obliterated potato, but technically (according to McDonalds' "Nutritional Information Leaflet", sigh) he SHOULD have been getting a fairly rounded amount of nutrients. Rolled in salt and fat. And deep-fried! And stuck in a bun! (oops, getting a bit excited now, deep breaths, deep breaths...)
the evil belly
29-09-2004, 10:31
he wasn't allowed to supersized unless he was offered it and if he was he couldn't refuse it. i seem to remembe r s guy doing something similar in england a few years back. i'll go through my back catalog of magazines and see what i can turn up
Nightcrawler
29-09-2004, 10:43
I said that going to the cinema (at a special screening, or whatnot) to see that film would teach them a thing or two (that they probably didn't know before)
So what,you're saying that there should be an add campaign along the lines of "Hi.If you're overweight,see this movie!"?How about a special discount for people over a certain mass too?
I'm sure they'll feel just great about themselves...:rolleyes:
And for the last time,overall your post wasn't a problem,just the way it was phrased towards the end.
its shocking to see this guys life take a turn into the shitter after only eating mcdonalds for 30 days but come on, what did he think would happen. most people should know that fast food is a fucking bad thing to be eating.
Someone said they didn't WANT to be that heavy - well, they didn't exactly get there by accident, it's a little more diffcult than that (or so I would imagine, perhaps you just wake up one morning and BOOM!). ;)
What? Did you actually try not to read my posts? Dammit you could at least have the decency to read what I said before making a pitiful critical analysis of it.
I want to smoke. I like smoking. Nothing better than a good cigarette after a hard day. Or with a drink. Or a cup of coffee. Or after a meal. Hash does have medicinal qualities even if you don't want to believe it. Quenn Victoria used to be prescribed hash by her doctor to help deal with her period cramps. It's a very effective pain killer, and more fun that paracetemol.
http://www.nt.gov.au/health/healthdev/health_promotion/bushbook/volume2/chap1/body_cannabis.gif
I won't say your an idiot for smoking, because your quite entitled to poison yourself. As for the benefits of Hash, see above.
Of course it has benefits. So does taking a long walk off the cliffs of Moher if you have severe back problems. End result, no more back problems. Anyways, this is about Supersize me not Hash.
And if you can't see that Moher thing was a joke... I pity you.
I think she is looking for an example menu.
THis is what I found after a one minute search on the web.
http://www.healthysteps.ie/healthy/recipes_list.asp
Healthy Main Meals:
Breakfast
The most important meal of the day
Fresh fruit or unsweetened fruit juice
Breakfast cereal, e.g. wholegrain/bran type or porridge
Wholemeal bread, butter/margarine spread thinly
Jam/marmalade - try it instead of spread
Milk or tea
Lunch
Should provide one third of your food requirements for the day
Meat, fish, chicken or combination dishes, e.g. pizza, quiche
Bread for sandwiches - rolls, pita, soda bread
Fresh fruit/yogurt
1 glass or carton of milk or unsweetened fruit juice
Dinner
Adapt your favourite recipes into healthy, balanced dishes
Home-made vegetable soup
Lean meat or chicken or fish
Good serving of vegetables or salad - at least one third of your meal
Boiled/baked potatoes or boiled rice/pasta
Fresh fruit/stewed fruit/milk pudding/yogurt
1 glass of water
Milk or tea
the evil belly
29-09-2004, 15:00
I won't say your an idiot for smoking, because your quite entitled to poison yourself. As for the benefits of Hash, see above.
quick question, do you drink coke or any other fizzy/sugary drinks? drink beer or other alcoholic drinks? eat processed foods of any kind?
i assume the answer is yes to at least one of the above questions, all of which are bad for you. we all do things that're bad for us. hell the amount of coke i drink will probably kill me or result in serious health problems.(the main reason i've decided to give it up or at least cut down hugely on the amount i drink) most medication is connected to illegal drugs in some way. morphine and herion are in the same group. both are as dangerous as each other but the main difference is morphine is seen as a valid drug i cos it's used in medicine. people are commonly perscribed barbituates for epilepsy. cocaine was widely perscribed in the C19th. if someone thinks that smoking rabbit shit is good for their sore head or runny nose or whatever then leave em off. don't bother me none. it's been proven that many people get as much benefit from a placebo as they do from other drugs. you don'y pay doctors a small fortune for a pescription, you pay for the piece of mind.
it's been proven that many people get as much benefit from a placebo as they do from other drugs. you don'y pay doctors a small fortune for a pescription, you pay for the piece of mind.
Actually your wrong, the study your speaking of failed to mention that most drugs were for psychological problems and the reason a placebo was just as effective was because the right drug or combination of drugs for the individual was not found yet. People require different drugs as they are different themselves and this require a certain amount of trail and error.
I accept your point, but drinking coca-cola, does not give the person sitting next to you asthma or lung cancer. It's all about responsibility, and few smokers accept that.
I accept your point, but drinking coca-cola, does not give the person sitting next to you asthma or lung cancer. It's all about responsibility, and few smokers accept that.
And thanks to people like you, we smokers can't poison others anymore. Much as we'd like to sometimes. but i'm not going to get into a discussion about smoking now. (However, as I see, 1 in 2 people will get cancer. You can get it from eating certain foods just as you can from smoking. Why not have some control over the kind you get? At least scientists and doctors know what causes lung cancer and spend more time working on cures.)
As for your pretty picture about hash, you didn't mention that you meant Long term effects. Every thing is bad for you in the long term, but that doesn't mean it can't help you in the short term. Even McDonalds can provide an acceptable meal if you can't get anything better at that time.
Fairly obvious answer. A proper/balanced meal would consist of a balance of protein, carbohydrates, and lipids/fats and vitamins.
Did you do Junior Cert Science?
Actually my point was that a stir fry can be cooked in considerably less than the hour and a half you claim is required to cook a proper meal.
the evil belly
29-09-2004, 15:50
And thanks to people like you, we smokers can't poison others anymore.
damn straight. tis the best peice of law this governments passed in my opinion
As for your pretty picture about hash, you didn't mention that you meant Long term effects.
eh the title on the picture is "long term effects of cannabis"
Sham, i'm not stupid :rolleyes: . I meant in the original post
(as if that bs about hash having medicinal qualities is scientifically true... spare me)
the evil belly
29-09-2004, 15:55
Sham, i'm not stupid
now's there's a basis for a debate. is faith really that stupid....:mwaha:
JennyPen
29-09-2004, 16:09
Actually your wrong, the study your speaking of failed to mention that most drugs were for psychological problems and the reason a placebo was just as effective was because the right drug or combination of drugs for the individual was not found yet. People require different drugs as they are different themselves and this require a certain amount of trail and error.
It's not ONE study he's referring to, there have been hundreds of studies on using placebos, they tend to work ebcause of the what's referred to as The Placebo Effect, and they work due peoples' strength of mind, in that, if they THINK that they're going to get better, that the drug will work, then they tend to! It's a proven fact, they've been studying it pretty much constantly for about 50 years, mostly because there's no medical reason for why it should work, it's fascinating!
the evil belly
29-09-2004, 16:18
i had a big long reply typed out to the post about placebos and then my system crashed. i'll type it out again later when i've the time.
And thanks to people like you, we smokers can't poison others anymore. Much as we'd like to sometimes.
Did anyone else see this and go WFT?!?!?!!?!?
Did anyone else see this and go WFT?!?!?!!?!?
not really, id love to go beat some ppl over the head with a lump hammer. her method is a little more subtle
the mc'd's nutritional leaflets are available in most mcd's, inc ones about allergies/diabetes/childrens'diets.
the placebo effect is scientifically proven and not just for psychological ailments.
fast food is not nessceraily bad food. stir fries/pasta dishes/noodley things can be prepared in twenty mins and are excellent. spending an hour boiling the life out of a spud is not nessacrily a good thing ya know
Well ill stick to eating in McDonalds i love the feckin place and if people just opened their eyes to see as Tree mentioned the nutritional leaflets then this film wouldnt have been made and people wouldnt be now sin-bined etc...
well those leaflets are an ireland/uk thing, dunno if they do them in the states.
the fries are the most problem part for the diet i'd say. a mac and a sidesalad would prolly be better for ya
JennyPen
29-09-2004, 22:53
with the balsamic dressing, the other dressings are just as bad as chips fat wise, but still deliciously yummy!
Sure would, but i dont think this movie is the way to go...it just proves to me how stupid humanity as a whole (not just america) can be.
I mean granted if this movie was made for an american audience (being all fat and stupid, as was said by somebody else previously) and was only realised in the US, fair enough.
But the saddest fact is people are paying to see a movie about a man making him sick in other countries,ones deemed with a higher intellectual collective. thats the idiotic part.
Somebody previously mentioned jackass/cky/dirty sanzhez etc..., but i pose this idea... Jackass etc.. are a t.v. program which can easily be switched off if found to be stupid or offensive via an amazing invention called the t.v. remote, while "Super-size me" involves actually having to pay hard-earned money to see this bullshit.
So you see there is a difference between the two, quite a large one infact.
You have the choice of switching it off and watch more facual shows like 'Panorama' for example deal with this subject (Which they have) in a far better and more logical way.
(Btw CKY was an underground skating video for years before the jackass era commenced, if you actually watch the show its primarly skating with little im Bam Magera/im an idiot...but a clever(seeing a niche in the entertainment market) and now wealthy idiot, just like this film-(giggle giggle)-maker.)
the ranch dressing is lovely (tis sour cream and chive)
JennyPen
29-09-2004, 23:01
Yeah 'tis yummy alright, I've tried them all. Not too impressed with the ceaser one, but it's ok.
Is it true ye're getting in half pounder burgers?
Yeah 'tis yummy alright, I've tried them all. Not too impressed with the ceaser one, but it's ok.
Is it true ye're getting in half pounder burgers?
third pounders. will be a few weeks at least. theyre calle dthe big tasty in england
(by half pounder is assaume you mean the patty is a half pound, otherwise jsut get a double qtr chesse)
JennyPen
29-09-2004, 23:10
Really? Ah wicked. Imagine a double one of dem...
i finally saw this two weekends ago, while i was eating chinese takeaway....
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