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DangerMouse
21-10-2003, 17:57
When I went to see Kill Bill lastnight (which was a good film) they showed a trailer of LOTR3.......(there really needs to be more smilies!)
Its was unbelievably sectacular! Jaw Dropping stuff. I couldnt believe my eyes......it was so so so good and it was only a trailer
Since seeing that trailer, LOTR3 is by far and away the best Film I have wanted to see, EVER.
I think im just going to buy a day pass to the cinema and watch LOTR3 over and over again.....I honestly think I cant wait for December
Yay,LOTR. Fantastic,enthralling films.Can't wait till Dec 17.Roll on LOTR3 and LOTR2 Special Edition DVD.
the outlaw torn
22-10-2003, 00:02
there was an interview recently with Ian mcKellan(whatever his name is,Gandslf) and he said he was talking to peter jackson recently and the final cut for return of the king was over 4 hours long!!! they are still working on it but it will defly be a long film, need an intermission in the middle i think.
Lord Raath
22-10-2003, 01:25
I went to see Kill Bill too, but my friend said it started at 2.15, when it actually started at 2.05, so we not only missed any cool trailers, we missed the start of the movie!:eek::evil:
does it really matter how long it would take. i can't wait till the day that a cinema shows all three of the films.
DangerMouse
22-10-2003, 15:20
there was an interview recently with Ian mcKellan(whatever his name is,Gandslf) and he said he was talking to peter jackson recently and the final cut for return of the king was over 4 hours long!!! they are still working on it but it will defly be a long film, need an intermission in the middle i think.
I can't wait all 3 Full of Extras DVD's. It'll probably have to come on like 12 of them to include everything, prolly more :D
Roll on December!!!!!
oh i cant wait.. even though i know the ending and all but still i wanna see how it will look on the big screen :) and Orlando...*cue drooling* boy is he Cute ;) :p :D
oh cant wait!! Demios had better b taking me to see it
DangerMouse
19-11-2003, 18:19
"Apparently Saraumon has been edited out of the last film. Which in my opinon is a ridculous move seeing as how they have made him a major part of the first 2 films. Peter Jackson says the scene will be shown on the dvd version. There have been many online pettions tho to try and get the 7 minute fight scene btwn him and Gandalf restored."
-Taken from a post made on TotalFormat.com
"yup they have and Christopher Lee has refused to go to the premier cos of it."
-Taken from a post made on TotalFormat.com
:'(
I guess we gotta wait for that 3x4 DVD BoxSet of all 3 films.
Shame really.....Still can't wait for the film!
the outlaw torn
19-11-2003, 19:05
they can't leave saruman out of the movie, that means that the final chapter of the book(which has a lot of saruman in it) might be left out or greatly cut!
Lord Raath
20-11-2003, 10:57
I would not be suprised if the last chapter in the book is left out altogether. I never held any hope that it would be filmed at all, after seeing how they were adapting the movie for the screen. It's not essential to the main story, see?:nope:
Anybody who has not read the book but has fallen in love with the characters of the movie, I would strongly recomend reading the book after you have seen the films. Knowing how it's going to end will not ruin it, trust me, and you will be suprised to see just how much stuff they had to leave out.:love:
Nightcrawler
20-11-2003, 11:15
Cutting Sarumans scenes is stupid.
It's like Star Wars without Vader,like Sherlock Holmes without Professor Moriarty,like...some other film without the bad guy...
Cutting Sarumans scenes is stupid.
It's like Star Wars without Vader,like Sherlock Holmes without Professor Moriarty,like...some other film without the bad guy...
totally agree its a load of crap!! :p
Come on people,they have to leave something out and if you think about it is Saruman's character really that pivotal to the third film. No the third film is about the ring.
If you think back to before the first film came out. We were told about a love story between Aragon and Arwen. The thought of this love story actually existing in the films and actually playing a big part in Aragon's life made people cringe. But it actually worked and made the character of Aragon more realistic. I think we have to trust Peter Jackson in his decisions. He's been right so far!
DangerMouse
20-11-2003, 13:28
It is a shame, but at the end of the day, the main theme of the films if on the destuction of the ring and theme of the third is the battle on the Plains before Minis Tirth! As Moo said "is Saruman's character really that pivotal to the third film. No the third film is about the ring."
The last 2 films have been awe inspiring and I have no doubt the third one will be too.......Anywayz it'll just make owning the DVD's even better :D
agreed, another example, tom bombadil, taken out of the first film, bit of moanin but twould break the mood of the whole film. the last chapter, while good, wouldnt really work in cinema terms, too much of an anticlimax
And as stated by I think Fran Walsh on the extended DVD "We never said it didn't happen, we just kindof skipped it. Technically the hobbits could have gone through the forest and met tom bombadil, we just never mentioned it" or something along those lines. If they were to film, scene by scene in the book the film would be days long
DangerMouse
20-11-2003, 14:06
And as stated by I think Fran Walsh on the extended DVD "We never said it didn't happen, we just kindof skipped it. Technically the hobbits could have gone through the forest and met tom bombadil, we just never mentioned it" or something along those lines. If they were to film, scene by scene in the book the film would be days long
And there in lies the problem, the book is so vast and wide reaching with different stories happening to everyone, its impossible to include everything......they would have had to make 6x3hour films if they wanted to even consider going through the book line by line, event by event!!!!!
For the most part they have included nearly everything of real worth from the books for which im grateful for. I think they have done an amazing job on smeagol!
They developed all the characters well.....for the most part. You gotta watch the DVD's extended versions to get the whole story on everyone but all in all for the 9 hours of the 3films, its amazing :evil:
nine hours for 3 films? hang on maybe its my math but......
fellowship extended 171 mins
two towers extended 206 mins
rotk film release approx 270 mins
that aint no nine hours. considerin the third film will be over 4 1/2 hours in the cinema, the extended edition of it will be feckin huge. the uci in coolock is showin both the extendeds back to back the day before the release of Return of the King
Lord Raath
20-11-2003, 14:28
to include everything......they would have had to make 6x3hour films!
I, for one, would not have had a problem with this.:D
:p
DangerMouse
20-11-2003, 14:50
nine hours for 3 films? hang on maybe its my math but......
fellowship extended 171 mins
two towers extended 206 mins
rotk film release approx 270 mins
that aint no nine hours. considerin the third film will be over 4 1/2 hours in the cinema, the extended edition of it will be feckin huge. the uci in coolock is showin both the extendeds back to back the day before the release of Return of the King
o my apologies 10.7 hours long :rolleyes:
And i don't include extended version's since extended editions are played in cinema's!
so ya its ROUGHLY 9 hours long :p
the outlaw torn
20-11-2003, 15:42
mayeb in stead of making 3 long movies but having to leave bits out they should have made a movie for each book to keep all the book readers happy an include everything. cause the books are divided into 2, so there is a total of 6 books. the movie company would have gotten twice as much book office money, and they are doing it with harry potter(theres gona be 8 or something harry potter movies) so its not an unimaginable thing to do.
Lord Raath
20-11-2003, 17:45
Six movies would have been a bit much for the non-Tolkien freaks though.
Can anyone actually tell me is this "fight scene" between Gandalf and Saruman actually in the book? Cause I didn't think Gandalf saw him again now until it was all over and they were on their way home to the Shire. Am I wrong?
Nightcrawler
20-11-2003, 19:05
Come on people,they have to leave something out and if you think about it is Saruman's character really that pivotal to the third film. No the third film is about the ring.
If you think back to before the first film came out. We were told about a love story between Aragon and Arwen. The thought of this love story actually existing in the films and actually playing a big part in Aragon's life made people cringe. But it actually worked and made the character of Aragon more realistic. I think we have to trust Peter Jackson in his decisions. He's been right so far!
True,but wouldn't that have people saying,"Where the hell'd Saruman go to?",especially if they're not familiar with the books?
As for trusting Peter Jackson,check out "Braindead" and "Bad Taste",2 of the dumbest movies EVER made.Might change your mind.
I think the whole mess with Christoper Lee being cut form the film is a major balls up by jackson and co...
Wont spoil it for anyone but lets just say they've done a total u-turn to the books.
Theres a picture online to prove it
http://www.countingdown.com/movies/538368/multimedia/images?item_id=2756408
Look no futher fans of the ring.
Avoid if dont want a spoiler...its not gonna be in the theactrical realise but definetly in the dvd, jackson promised.
the outlaw torn
20-11-2003, 23:23
that picture makes no sense, it totally isn't in keeping with the book, ah why change a great story.
Ok,If ye've watched the extended version of fellowship of the ring,they explain about how at the start of the project it was just going to be two films. Then I think Miramix (I think,maybe it's not,well some company like that anyway) quit the project and then AOL stepped in. They wanted three movies and that was it,no more or no less. As they're the cash people,peter jackson and co kind of had to do what they were told. Six movies,however great it would be was never to happen because AOL would not give that much cash. AOL considered it a risk to put the book into the Cinema. How wrong they were!
And my point about saying that we should trust Jackson,I meant within the context of the previous LOTR movies.
Lord Raath
21-11-2003, 11:41
As for trusting Peter Jackson,check out "Braindead" and "Bad Taste",2 of the dumbest movies EVER made.Might change your mind.
Those movie were made as a piss-take, they are not supposed to wow you or even make any sense. Rat monkeys!:p And Braindead has that scene that pops into my head everytime I see a member of the clergy; "I kick ass for the Lord!". Go go ninja priest!:D
someone needs to make a few movies based on the silmarillion which is by far a better book than the lord of the rings
the outlaw torn
21-11-2003, 17:01
thats a good idea but i don't think it'll ever happen, its a good book but it'd go on for ages and its not a very straight forward story, well it is but nothing like lotr.
i can see the hobbit being turned into a movie very easily tho.
Lord Raath
23-11-2003, 21:55
I would be quite surprised if someone didn't film The Hobbit now, but I would be even more suprised if they shot The Silmarillion. It is a fantastic book if you get into it, but to covert it into a movie they would have to cut it to ribbons.:nope:
the outlaw torn
24-11-2003, 03:08
don't think they should go making to many great books into movies, cause every person will have a different opinion on what things should be like and some people will be disappointed. and holywood can never recreate the special effects of your imagination, even with cgi.
DangerMouse
24-11-2003, 15:25
The Silmarillrion is the best of all the books, I'v read of the series. Would be amazing as films, but it would be many times longer then even LOTR's, simply cos it's 10 times more complex.
I would love to see it made into a film, similarly The Hobbit, although not as much.
Lord Raath
25-11-2003, 10:50
don't think they should go making to many great books into movies, cause every person will have a different opinion on what things should be like and some people will be disappointed. and holywood can never recreate the special effects of your imagination, even with cgi.
Well to be fair to Jackson, he got a hell of a lot of it right, in my opinion. Oh right, I see your point...
:p
the outlaw torn
25-11-2003, 15:40
i love discovering books from first seeing the movie and then goin and reading the book. like the shining, saw the movie loads of times, confused the hell out of me with the ending so i decided to get the book, which was much better and had a proper ending that made sense.
:D I got LOTR2 Extended Version today. I'm so excited about it,but I can't watch it yet cause i've a test to study for tomorrow. It's 214 mins yay! :)
saw the trailer it looks REALLY class!! cant wait cant wait, its such a money racket though that they will only put christopher lee in the dvd thingy! such a pity no wonder he wont go to the premire! :(
Nightcrawler
27-11-2003, 17:13
The Return Of The King will destroy all others.
"This day: we fight!"
Can't stress how much I'm lookin' forward to this film.
DangerMouse
28-11-2003, 18:02
The Return Of The King will destroy all others.
"This day: we fight!"
Can't stress how much I'm lookin' forward to this film.
I think I know exactly how you fell though, The day is getting closer and closer :D
This flim will own ALL, Matrix 2,3 T1,2,3 Aliens.......the lot :p (Notice how I exclude Matrix1 though ;))
Was it wrong of me to watch 20 hours or so of The Two Towers this weekend? Firstly I watched the movie, then the appendicies, then I watched the film with commentry by Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens, and then I watched the film with the comentry by the actors. I've way too much time!
speakin of the extended, i found one of the easter eggs. go to chapter selection on chapter 30. press down i think(ah fuck it its one of the directions) and you'll see a ring become highlighted. select it and presto, Gollums acceptance speech from the MTV awards, fully uncut.
I tried it and it didn't work. Was it on the first or second disk? The second disk chapter 30 is the scene when Frodo faces up to the Nazgul in osgiliath. Or is it on Disk one?
wait, its second disk, but it might be 31 or 29 or something, its on the second disk i know that. i just remember bein near chapter 30 when i found it.
Lord Raath
08-12-2003, 11:44
I would have a bloody exam on the day it's released.:curse: So much for seeing it three times on day one, I will have to settle for just once in the evening...:(
ditto i have an exam that day too...do u think they plan all this well ahead so that we r miserable! bloodly bastards!!!
:p
Well i've a bit of a predicament as well. Our class is going ice skating and then we have a christmas class party. Can't decide whether I should go to class party or not! Ok, so not much of a predicament,but I still can't decide.
Has anyone seen it yet???
if people see it , please don't post anything that might spoil the film for others ...
saw it last week with the ol bf :) i thought it was really kewl but the end was a lil dragged out and they should have had chris lee in it and also they could have put in ALOT more of orlando if they wanted!
but i thought it was a good final chapter to the other films.
I saw it tuesday. Hated the start and the end. Otherwise a fantastic movie.
Lord Raath
29-12-2003, 16:46
I thought it was very good, but I was still disapointed with it. I guess it had a lot to live up to...:nope:
i enjoyed it. still think the whole arwen thing was way overplayed through the movies.
Sat down yesterday, at 2pm. Watched the first two LotR movies. Left my chair at 8.30pm. Returned to my chair at 12 am to watch all the extras. Went to see the 3rd one today. Loved them all!! The ending of the 3rd one was very dragged out with all the goodbyes and everything, but nonetheless, an impressive trilogy. Must read the books now. And I fully agree with Ms.Kitty when she says they could have included a LOT more Orlando! I had a row of 10 year old girls behind me who'd gasp everytime he came on screen , and go "Oh my God, it's Orlando!" Ruined the mood a bit for me. They can piss off, I tells ya! :evil:
Nightcrawler
06-01-2004, 14:35
Loved it all.Superb film.
Nazgúl... :D Gotta love 'em.
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